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Subject: RE: What's left for 2.0?
From: Eldridge, Fredric G. (Fredric_at_mail.crk.umn.edu)
Date: 2003-04-04


For me I still assert that the red led lockups are related to
temperature. This morning it was quite cold, below 20 Fahrenheit. I
left my warm house and started the Archos running. About two blocks
later, well before the car was warmed up, I stopped for gas. Shortly
after leaving the gas station the Archos entered the red led dead state
and would not even reboot (the progress bar of Archos OS version 1.30j
hung at about 1/3 of the way) until I warmed it up inside my jacket. It
then ran flawlessly, inside my jacket next to my chest, for the next 1.5
hours of my drive. I understand that battery output is substantially
lower in cold temperatures and for that reason I'm not sure that Rockbox
can solve this problem. It may be just an inherent problem of the
hardware

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack [mailto:jack_at_sylviawebster.f2s.com]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:03 AM
To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
Subject: RE: What's left for 2.0?

Can you buy (expensive) batteries to stop this?

=======================================

On 03.04.2003 at 10:09 PM Gerald Clark wrote:

>Battery output decreases significanty at lower temperatures.
>In cold weather, disk spinup could very well fail.
>
>-----Original Message-----
> From: "Eldridge, Fredric G."<Fredric_at_mail.crk.umn.edu>
> Sent: 4/3/03 8:16:00 AM
> To: "rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se"<rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> Subject: RE: What's left for 2.0?
> I have a really off the wall idea about this. For some time I
have
> thought that this problem might be temperature related. I know this
> sounds bizarre but it has been consistent ever since I got my
Archos FM
> Recorder about three months ago. I live in North Dakota where we
get a
> lot of cold weather but since the weather has started to get a
little
> more spring like this problem is a lot less common. I always take
the
> unit indoors at night and when I first start it up in the car it
works
> for a while. If it is cold out it will lock up after 10 - 15
minutes.
> After restarting if I keep it warm, for instance, by putting the
unit
>in
> my shirt pocket under my coat it will not reoccur.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Stenberg [mailto:daniel_at_haxx.se]
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 7:35 AM
> To: Rockbox
> Subject: What's left for 2.0?
>
> We're down to only one single flaw that is still considered a
> show-stopper
> for the upcoming 2.0 release, and that is the ATA/disk problems
> sometimes
> referred to as the 'red led death' (and similar).
>
> Some minor adjustments have been made lately that according to some
> people
> have improved the situation.
>
> We need more feedback, more reports, more analyses. Bring your
opinions
> and
> your ideas.
>
> The problem that sometimes appears in combination with rewinding or
>fast
> forwarding, is not the same problem and will not be addressed
before
>the
> 2.0
> release since it will require a somewhat larger fix.
>
> --
> Daniel Stenberg -- http://rockbox.haxx.se/ --
http://daniel.haxx.se/

Jack (Futurealive Games)



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